[2025 Garmisch-Partenkirchen Attraction] Travel Guide for Zugspitze (Updated Jan)

#spooktaculartrip #tripblazers #fallingforfall Atlast, we arrived at Zugspitze! We wanted to be here on the top a day before but we did not make because the day‘s limit was already reached, so they no longer sold any tickets. The online booking was not possible and what we did was we bought our tickets at the counter for the next day. Zugspitze can be reached by a special train that starts at Garmisch-Partenkirchen Zugspitze station. The ticket costed 63€ per person and it was really worth it! On the summit, you can find restaurants and cafes. There is also a museum that showed the history of Zugspitze, its train, the station, the people who built the station and those who were behind the scenes. While on the summit, we clearly saw the beautiful Eibsee below us and it was stunning 🤩 Zugspitze is a very popular destination of germans and other nationals. The view on the top is breathtaking from in each season. It was a great experience going up there on the top and everything was really worth the price ❤️ #zugspitze #garmischpartenkirchen #germany #autumn #roadtrip #autumnbreak #travel #holiday

Cable cars run from Eibsee to the top of Zugspitze for panoramic views. There is a restaurant at the top with great food and stunning views. We were planning to head there for lunch to soak in all the views but unfortunately cable car tickets were sold out for the day (and the whole week). What a bummer. We were told to pre-book our tickets online ahead as they sell out fast, especially in winter. Ended up playing snow at the foot of the mountain near the car park. Some families brought their sledge there to play and it looked like lots of fun. #createwithtrip #germany #skiadventure #naturewonders #snow #beautiful

The Zugspitze, at an altitude of 2,962 meters, belongs to the Alps and is the highest mountain in Germany. This is near the Austrian border. There are two very rare glaciers in the mountains. It is a very famous glacier ski resort in Germany and the highest ski resort in winter. Generally, you need to drive to the Ebou Lake cable car station and take the cable car to the top of the mountain. It takes about 2 hours for the cable car to line up. It is skiing on the mountain and it is very convenient to rent ski equipment. Come here to experience the fun of skiing. The spring and summer scenery here is also very good. There are mountains and lakes with grass and the photos are beautiful.

Hello everyone! The New Year’s Eve is approaching. With the expectations for the New Year, I would like to present you with a 12-day German New Year’s Eve travel guide. Let’s welcome the New Year together! Scan the QR code to start your journey~ 🎉🚀Travel route: Day 1-2: Arrive at Berlin Airport, wait for the tour guide to pick you up, and start exploring Berlin freely. Day 3-4: Visit Berlin, Potsdam and Dresden, take a look at the King's Sanssouci Palace, and then follow in the footsteps of literary giants Goethe and Schiller and stroll in the small town of Bamberg. Day 5-6: Head to Würzburg and Rothenburg to experience the German Romantic Road. Then go to Heidelberg and Baden-Baden to visit the cultural ancient city and hot spring capital. Day 7-8: Arrive at Stuttgart via Metzingen Outlet Village and immerse yourself in the fun of shopping. Then come to Neuschwanstein Castle and Garmisch-Partenkirchen to enjoy the fairy-tale castles and beautiful scenery. Day 9-10: Next is Zugspitze and Munich, climbing the highest peak in Germany and experiencing the center of Bavaria in the past. And have a free day in Munich. Day 11-12: Return home from Munich and end this colorful trip to Germany. Must-visit attractions: 🏰 Neuschwanstein Castle: A dream castle, beautiful in all seasons, with magnificent interior decoration, it is definitely the legendary royal high-end! 🏛Museum Island: This is a collection of exquisite cultural relics from ancient Babylon and Egypt, which is like traveling back in time to ancient history to observe the progress of human civilization. 🏎Mercedes-Benz Museum: This is the birthplace of Mercedes-Benz. The Mercedes-Benz journey starts here, presenting a visual feast for car enthusiasts! 🌍Berlin Wall Memorial Park: Walking through a section of the original wall landscape with isolation belts and guard booths, it feels like traveling to that moment in history. 🏮Munich Palace: Here you can visit the rococo old Royal Theater to feel the prosperity and loneliness of the royal family. Some tips: 🕓Time difference: The time difference between Germany and China is about -7 hours, remember to adjust your work and rest time🌙. 💶 Currency exchange: Euros are used locally, and the general exchange rate will fluctuate. It is recommended to exchange some small-denomination banknotes for convenience💸. 🚌Airport transportation: There are subways, buses, and taxis around all major airports, which are very convenient. You can choose according to your needs🚕. I hope these tips are helpful to you, and have fun visiting Germany! 🎒🗺️ Well, this colorful trip to Germany ends here. Pack your bags quickly and let’s explore this country full of fairy tales and dreams together!

Mount Watzmann Guide: 🏔️🌈Mount Watzmann is a mountain in the Bavarian Alps in Germany. First, head to the foot of Mount Watzmann and take a cable car or hike up the mountain to enjoy the beautiful scenery along the way. Once you reach the top, you can enjoy the magnificent views of Bavaria. There is also an observation deck where you can get a closer look at the beauty of Mount Watzmann. Next, head to the attractions around Mount Watzmann, such as Zugspitze and Linderhof Palace. When visiting, pay attention to safety and follow the rules of the scenic area. You can choose to taste local delicacies at the restaurants on the top of the mountain or nearby. You can choose to stay in hotels or homestays around Mount Watzmann. Mount Watzmann is a place that will captivate you. Come and start your journey to Mount Watzmann! Remember to bring your camera to capture these beautiful moments. At the same time, be sure to protect the environment and do not litter so that this beautiful mountain will always remain pure and natural. 🏔️🌈

#2024mapped Zugspitze is hands down the best part of my trip in Germany. Being the tallest mountain of Germany, it is yet not that famous internationally (at least not outside Europe) as a place with snowy mountainous landscape. But it should have been. The view up there is breathtaking, with a fantastically designed 360degree panoramic platform. Since the mountain is shared by Germany and Austria, they share the platform but have their own restaurants/facilities. The German side is more sleek/modern, while the Austrian side has incredible views at the restaurant (if you need a meal up there, I’d strongly recommend to do it at the Austrian side). The cable car pass costs the same whether you ski or not, which is odd but lovely. Had I had more time, I’d certainly choose to come up with a complete set of gear. But that also means you might wanna plan up more time for a trip to Zugspitze. And there’s a combo deal with a train ticket from Munich that has departure early in the morning, which is extremely worth considering, if one is to arrive by train. The reason why I didn’t have enough time is: the lake at the bottom, Eibsee, is a gorgeous lake with mesmerizing. I’d even argue it’s the best lake in Germany and in no way inferior to any Switzerland lakes. Do reserve two hours to go a full round, preferably in the morning. It’s absolutely worth it.

| A Dream Trip from Hannover Zugspitze | A Dream Trip from Hannover✨ Transportation Guide - Train: First, take the ICE train from Hannover to Munich, which takes about 3 to 4 hours. After arriving in Munich, transfer to a regional train such as RB or RE to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, which takes about 1.5 hours. At the Zugspitzbahnhof train station in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, you can take the cogwheel train to Zugspitze. - Self-driving: If you choose to drive, the distance from Hannover to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, where Zugspitze is located, is relatively far, about 500 km, and it takes about 5 hours to drive. But you can enjoy the scenery of different regions of Germany along the way, which is also a good experience. Travel Guide - Eibsee Lake at the mountainside: Before climbing the mountain, you must visit Eibsee Lake at the foot of the mountain. The lake is crystal clear, surrounded by green mountains, and the scenery is breathtaking. You can also hike around the lake, which is about 8 km long, and enjoy the beauty of nature. - Climbing trip: You can choose to take the cogwheel train or cable car to the top. The cogwheel train departs from the Zugspitzbahnhof train station in Garmisch-Partenkirchen and slowly heads to the top of the mountain, with picturesque scenery along the way. The cable car can take you from Eibsee Lake directly to the summit at an altitude of 2,950 meters. If you come in winter, you can also experience exciting skiing. The ski slopes here are great, and both beginners and experts can find a suitable slope. - Mountain top scenery: After reaching the top, the view is wide open, and the continuous Alps are in full view. On a clear day, it is said that you can see five countries: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, and Liechtenstein. There are also exhibitions, observation decks, souvenir shops, and restaurants on the top of the mountain, where you can take a break, eat something to replenish your energy, and enjoy the beautiful scenery. Tickets and Opening Hours - Tickets: Zugspitze ski pass - all day, adult ticket EUR 62.00, youth (16-18 years old) EUR 31.00, children (6-15 years old) EUR 31.00, student EUR 62.00, family ticket adult EUR 55.00, family ticket for children (6-18 years old) EUR 27.50. The ski pass includes one uphill and downhill ride on the Zugspitze cable car or cogwheel train. - Opening hours: Open all year round. Tips - The temperature on the mountain is low, and the wind is strong. Even in summer, you should bring warm clothes such as thick coats, scarves, gloves, and hats. - When taking the cable car or cogwheel train, you may experience tinnitus. You can prepare chewing gum in advance to relieve it. - Book tickets and train tickets online in advance to avoid queuing and waiting on site.

2 weeks solo trip with landing to Munich, then head to Austria to stay in Ehrwald town. Go to the Zugspitze for a day trip by cable car. And go around the area for easy day trip. Train to Salzburg for few days and travel by train to Bled, from there I do 2 days solo hike to Triglav which is the highest mountain in Slovenia and stay overnight in mountain hut. The hiking trail is with alot of stone and sharp ascending so helmet and safety harness is a must for own safety. #europe #solotrip

Germany is calling! This 12-day in-depth tour will take you to romantic castles and authentic cuisine. This super practical guide is a must-have for your dream trip to Germany! / Germany has a long history, from spectacular castles 🏰 to charming ancient towns, exuding a medieval charm. The beer festival 🍺 and folk dances here will give you a deep experience of the unique local customs. Don't miss it! / 🎉Itinerary: Day 1: Depart from Shanghai Day 2-3: Munich - Zugspitze - Füssen - Rothenburg, Zugspitze Glacier Adventure, Disney Castle Prototype Tour Day 4-5: Bamberg - Bayreuth - Dresden - Berlin, Little Venice and Florence on the Elbe Day 6-7: Berlin - Potsdam - Hamburg, Berlin City Exploration, Tranquility of the Back Garden and Vitality of the World Bridge City Day 8-9: Hamburg - Bremen - Hamelin - Kassel - Cologne, Fairy Tale City and Historical and Cultural Tour Day 10: Cologne - Boppard - St. Goar - Heidelberg, Pearl on the Rhine and Charm of Heidelberg Day 11-12: Heidelberg - Frankfurt - Shanghai, End of the Journey on the Main River and Return Home 🏠 / Must-visit attractions: Neuschwanstein Castle ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Address: Neuschwansteinstrasse 20, 87645 Schwangau, Germany Opening hours: October 16 - December 23, 10:00-16:00 Duration: 2-3 hours A fairytale castle with different scenery in all four seasons, the interior is even more magnificent, as if you are in a fairy tale world. Museum Island ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Address: Museum Island (Bodestrasse) 10178 Berlin Opening hours: Tuesday-Sunday 10:00-18:00; Monday closed Duration: 1 day This is a treasure trove of history and art, with exquisite artifacts from ancient Babylon and Egypt, allowing you to experience the charm of a thousand years of civilization in one visit. Cologne Cathedral ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Address: Domkloster4 50667 Cologne Opening hours: 06:00-20:00 Duration: 1-2 hours This Gothic cathedral is a UNESCO World Heritage Site with a long history, and every brick and tile reveals a unique charm that will leave you wanting more. / Travel tips: - December climate: Germany has moderate winter temperatures, with an average daytime temperature of about 1.5°C and cooler nights, so be sure to bring a warm coat. 🧣 - Currency exchange rate: Germany uses the euro, and the current exchange rate is about 1 euro = 7.5 RMB, so check the real-time exchange rate before shopping. 💶 - Visa information: A Schengen visa is required to travel to Germany, so please prepare the necessary documents and arrange for the visa in advance. 📝 - Food recommendations: Try German sausages, pork knuckles, beer, and other specialties for a unique taste. 🍖🍺 / If you like my Germany travel guide, please like and save it, so you won't get lost in Germany! 🎉💌

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The Zugspitze is Germany's highest mountain, standing at 2,962 meters (9,718 feet) above sea level. It is located in the Bavarian Alps, near the town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen and close to the Austrian border. Known for its breathtaking views and unique alpine landscape, the Zugspitze offers a panoramic view that stretches across four countries: Germany, Austria, Italy, and Switzerland, on clear days. The mountain is a popular destination for skiing, snowboarding, and hiking, as well as for sightseeing. It has a glacier on its summit, which enables year-round skiing, and multiple cable car options provide easy access to the top. The Zugspitze also has a weather station and an observation platform.

Zugspitze, the top of Germany, cable car to go the top is EUR72 per person. Worth the trip if you’re there to ski, otherwise it’s just another snow mountain. The other option is to walk around the lake and enjoy the view from below.

#outdooradventures At 2,962 metres, the Zugspitze is Germany’s highest mountain. It is the home to one of Germany’s last glaciers and Germany’s highest ski area with 20 kilometres of ski runs: The natural snow on Zugspitze makes skiing and snowboarding an amazing experience. 🏂⛷️⛄ 🚡The Cable car Zugspitze, the cogwheel train and the Gletscherbahn cable car provide excellent access to Germany’s highest mountain. 🗻At the summit, the breathtaking scenic views of the four countries and 400 surrounding mountain peaks in Germany, Austria, Italy and Switzerland are waiting. #mytravelhacks #myhiddengems #germany #100waysoftravel #peakviews #skiing

Imagine yourself indulging in a steaming cup of hot chocolate, surrounded by breathtaking panoramic views atop the majestic Zugspitze mountain. 🌄❄️☕️ Join us on an epic adventure to the summit, where the Panorama 2962 restaurant awaits at a staggering altitude of almost 3,000 meters! 📍🏔️ As you take a sip of your delicious hot chocolate, let the flavors dance on your taste buds, warming you from the inside out. 😋🍫❤️ Capture the moment with awe-inspiring photos, courtesy of the talented @everchanginghorizon, and cherish the memories of this extraordinary experience. 📸✨ Whether you're a nature enthusiast or a thrill-seeker, this is a must-visit destination that will leave you in awe of Germany's natural beauty. 🌟🇩🇪 So, pack your bags, put on your hiking boots, and get ready to embark on a journey to the top of the world, where hot chocolate dreams come true! 🌍🔝☕️ cr：jess.wandering & Contact us for removal

Zugspitze is the highest peak of the Wetterstein Mountains and the highest mountain in Germany. It lies south of the town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen in Bavaria, and the Austria–Germany border is on its western summit. South of the mountain is the Zugspitzplatt, a high karst plateau with numerous caves. I took the cable car not very cheap , for the cable car ride is around 90 euro two ways trip.Regardless, it's still worth it. The view from Germany's highest mountain (2,962 m / 9,718 ft above sea level; and the highest peak of the Wetterstein Mountains) is impressive. The journey to this zigspitze is really nice and worth to go there without any hesitation for me.

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Germany's highest peak includes the highest ski resort, highest post office, highest church, and highest restaurant. The name Zugspitze comes from "Spitze" meaning peak and "Zug" meaning avalanche, named after the frequent avalanches on the steep north side of the mountain. Located at the border between Germany and Austria, you can directly cross the border. As both are Schengen areas, there are no passport checkpoints. The golden cross on the summit, which is the highest point of Zugspitze, symbolizes the independence and freedom of Bavaria. The cable car 🚠 of Germany's highest peak, Zugspitze, has three world records: the longest cable car at 3212 meters, the highest vertical drop at 1945 meters, and the tallest steel cable car tower at 127 meters. One cannot help but admire Germany's craftsmanship. From the summit of Zugspitze, you can see over 200 peaks of the Alps in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Italy.

In the German-style wooden house under the Chug Feng snow mountain, quiet and elegant, with a unique rural style. Enjoy a peaceful and elegant life here. Germany has always been known for its technological leadership and rigorous work. Whether it is electronic technology or industrial construction, it outperforms others, not to mention building houses! Moreover, people who have been to Germany must feel that the scenery in the German countryside is exceptionally beautiful, and the small houses are also very beautiful.

We took the cogwheel train to (almost) the summit. Finished to the top on a cable car. The view cannot be described in words. You can see five countries from the southern view. I took pics and looked up the peaks at the hotel. Finished the journey by taking the big cable car all the way down near Eibsee. An amazing day.

Superb and amazing day trip when you are in Munich! travelling there though a little troublesome with changes, it is totally worth the visit! the highest point in Munich, the Zugspitze! beautiful views of mountains, lakes, covered in white pristine snow, enjoying German food on top of the alps at over 2,500m up! definitely will come back here again sometime!

#celebratewithtrip Zugspitze the highest mountain in Germany which is accessible by train either from Garmisch-Partenkirchen or from Tirol, Austria is a beauty that one can’t deny but to admire it’s amazing charms. To visit Zugspitze, it’s better to buy the ticket online ahead of time to avoid the queue. We took the train at Garmisch-Partenkirchen Zugspitze station and it was very hassle free! We went there early to avoid the crowd and as we reached the top, we were able to enjoy the view since only a few people were still there. It was a nice sight looking at the snow on the top of the mountain. It seems like powdered sugar was sprinkled on it. The view of the mountain inside the cafe where we had our snack break was amazing. The cafe itself was very cozy and since there were only us during that time, it made the place cozier and felt more exclusive for me and my family. A visit to the highest mountain in Germany, Zugspitze, was a wonderful experience. #zugspitze #garmischpartenkirchen #germany #vacation #autumnbreak #autumn

#celebratewithtrip To reach Zugspitze, it is more convenient to start at Garmisch-Partenkirchen Zugspitze station. You can leave your car at the station for a 5€ parking fee for the whole day. The ticket cost 63€ which include the train ride up to the summit. The price is worth it! Going up to Zugspitze from Garmisch-Partenkirchen, I was taking these pictures while we were on the train (Zahnradbahn) on our way to Zugspitze. The view were so beautiful that reminded me of some movie. It was so calming looking at the scenery outside the window. The Lake Eibsee caught my attention! The turquoise water was so inviting! The lake looked like a priceless jewel that was inside a jewelry box! The train drive up was an ultimate experience. The nature was amazingly beautiful! When we reached the top, we were met by a breathtaking view and nature! I was speechless and just enjoyed the beauty that only the nature can give! Visiting Zugspitze was on the most unforgettable experience that I had this year! #zugspitze #garmischpartenkirchen #germany #vacation #nature #trip #autumn #fall

#celebratewithtrip #spooktaculartrip #tripblazers #fallingforfall During our visit to Zugspitze, one of the things that captured my interest was their museum, entrance was free as it was already included in our train tickets. It was nice looking at the old pictures and memorabilias and see the then and now of Zugspitze. The captions and the pictures as well as the story were very helpful for the first time visitors to know how the rail tracks was built and how did the train operated before during that time. The pictures were captured well and were very realistic. It was amazing to see how rustic the way the construction standards before compared to now. Looking at the construction workers, the engineers their sleeping cabins, the train staff and the tourists, one can‘t help but appreciate how they worked hard, for us to enjoy such amazing nature and view. Zugspitze is a wonderful place to visit ❤️ #zugspitze #garmischpartenkirchen #bayern #deutschland #bavaria #germany #nature #travel #roadtrip #holiday

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Traveling to Germany can't be done with three must-see attractions: Swan Castle, Kings Lake and Zugspitze (German: ZUGSPITZE). Today we are talking about this Zugspitze. Zuger Peak Although there is no height of Mount Everest, the altitude is only 2962 meters, but as the first peak in Germany, it is still a holy place that many people yearn for conquest. The Zugspitze belongs to the Alps, the main peak is located near the Bavarian border between Germany and Austria, and there are two glaciers in the mountains that are extremely rare in Germany. Located 350 meters below the Zugspitze, the flat plateau on the valley is the highest ski resort in Germany and the only glacier ski resort. About Zugspitze, many mysterious and touching stories have been circulated among the German people. Because the mountains are steep, the clouds are haunting, the terrain is complex, and no one dares to explore for a long period of time. People say that Zugspitze does not welcome people to explore the mountains. People who want to conquer it have never gone back.

The Alps are located in the south-central Europe, covering northern Italy, southeastern France, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, southern Germany and Slovenia. Not going to the Alps is equivalent to not coming to Europe. I recently chatted with friends about the Jungfrau in Switzerland. My friend said that the Swiss Alps are the tallest version of the West Sichuan. Its a bit hot to say. The so-called high version is not to say that the scenery here is better and more worthwhile (beauty is not different from person to person), we say that the taller is only relative consumption. The Zugspitze is the highest mountain in the German Alps, with a focus on being close to Fissen. There are two roads to the top of the mountain, one for the train and one for the cable car. This train has a special spicy, called a small train. There is no pressure on the upper slope and it is guaranteed not to fall. When I got to the top of the mountain, I saw a little blue sky, and there was a little sunshine on the horizon. However, the blue sky behind is becoming scarcer, and the sunset in the corner is still strong. With a telephoto, you can also take a few details, the sunrise is infinitely magnified, infinitely beautiful. Figure 3 This golden shelf is the highest peak. It can be taken up. It seems to be repairing or doing it that day? Anyway, the road is sealed. Figure 2 is a burning cloud, and this luck is also very good.